New Version - Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War (English)
Fortunately we have now passed through the dark side and our blog has been restored. Thanks again to users for helping us out with lost files. The digital age has only further underscored our need for redundancy. Lost zeros and ones are just as hard to replicate as are lost pieces of paper.
Now a new version for the history majors and fans of Greek classical prose: Thucydides! Thucydides forms half of the two-part Greek historian combo that is famous even in our day (Herodotus is the other half, duh!). Of course these were not the only historians around, but their works have established them as pillars of the study of history. Thucydides writes about the history of the Peloponnesian War which took place in the 5th century BC in Greece. If you want to read more about Thucydides or this work I would suggest Wikipedia as a good starting point (I liked the basic outline contained therein). Maybe it's biased and inaccurate, guess you'll have to compare what you learn there with other sources! See. Wikipedia encourages further study! :)
Now there's good news and bad news. First the good news: This release contains two different English translations of Thucydides. Now you can have more than one viewpoint in order to work through the text.
The bad news. I have been unable to find a public domain source of the Greek text of Thucydides. Perseus contains a nice Greek text, but it is from a 1942 Oxford Press edition, which to the best of my knowledge would still be in copyright. Now you can still make for your own personal use a Greek edition from the Perseus text, but that is a rather complicated process. However, if someone can come up with a public domain Greek text, I will see about converting it and making it available on the blog here. Until then, I hope something is better than nothing!
DOWNLOAD - Thucydides English version 1
DOWNLOAD - Thucydides English version 2
Now a new version for the history majors and fans of Greek classical prose: Thucydides! Thucydides forms half of the two-part Greek historian combo that is famous even in our day (Herodotus is the other half, duh!). Of course these were not the only historians around, but their works have established them as pillars of the study of history. Thucydides writes about the history of the Peloponnesian War which took place in the 5th century BC in Greece. If you want to read more about Thucydides or this work I would suggest Wikipedia as a good starting point (I liked the basic outline contained therein). Maybe it's biased and inaccurate, guess you'll have to compare what you learn there with other sources! See. Wikipedia encourages further study! :)
Now there's good news and bad news. First the good news: This release contains two different English translations of Thucydides. Now you can have more than one viewpoint in order to work through the text.
The bad news. I have been unable to find a public domain source of the Greek text of Thucydides. Perseus contains a nice Greek text, but it is from a 1942 Oxford Press edition, which to the best of my knowledge would still be in copyright. Now you can still make for your own personal use a Greek edition from the Perseus text, but that is a rather complicated process. However, if someone can come up with a public domain Greek text, I will see about converting it and making it available on the blog here. Until then, I hope something is better than nothing!
DOWNLOAD - Thucydides English version 1
DOWNLOAD - Thucydides English version 2
posted by Michael Hanel at 5:47 PM
6 Comments:
I posted a question about a Greek Text on the Classics-L e-list. An interesting philosophical discussion ensued...But more importantly, it looks like the TLG Online Demo (ttp://www.tlg.uci.edu/demoauthors.html) has the same text as Perseus, with this disclaimer:
The texts and other materials made available on this site have been compiled by the Thesaurus Linguae GraecaeR (TLG R) Project at the University of California, Irvine at substantial cost and are intended for non-commercial scholarly use.
Will that work?
James
Michael,
You say "Fortunately we have now passed through the dark side and our blog has been restored."
A quick check shows that some of the datasets in your master list are not yet there -- at least I cannot access them -- including
John Wycliffe's Middle English Translation of the Vulgate (1388) (Bob Venem)
Bishops' Bible (1568) (Bob Venem)
King James Version (1611) (Bob Venem)
Miles Coverdale Version (1535) (Bob Venem)
I am especially interested in early English versions -- will these again be available; if so, is there an estimated time of recovery?
Thanks,
Jim Wert
James ~ Unfortunately I don't think the TLG site helps any at all. The materials on that site are free for anyone to use, but I don't think it's okay to grab the text and redistribute it. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be corrected, but I don't think it works out that way.
James II ~ or Jim as it were ~
Thanks for the notice. I uploaded all of those files today, so it should be set.
This is a great help for reading, but the 'other half' is not working. Herodotus is down. I was not able to access it.
p.s. thanks for all of your hard works guys, this is great stuff.
i can't find the esperanto bible, which I was hoping to find at http://bibleworks.oldinthenew.org/version/lsb.zip.
Herodotus files are there, I'll look into the Esperanto.
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